Tlk a copy of Kimba the white lion?

Tlk a copy of Kimba the white lion?


I know there is already an article like this but i wanted to continue it.


Did the Disney studio steal Kimba The White Lion and rework it as their 'original story', The Lion King? They certainly give that impression with their corporate stance ('we never heard of Tezuka nor Kimba until after The Lion King was released'). And why would they have filed suit to try to prevent the showing of Tezuka Productions' 1997 Jungle Emperor Leo movie at the 1998 Toronto FantAsia Film Festival? (Jungle Emperor was the original title for Kimba The White Lion.) It seems quite simple; Kimba had been kept out of sight in North America for 20 years by that time. And once you can see the two together...

The shame of the matter is that the Disney company is sticking to their official line --that their people never heard of Kimba before The Lion King was released-- even in the face of logic and evidence. As Robin Pen pointed out if we were to take their statement at face value, it actually means they were stupid and irresponsible. But more than that, many examples say just the opposite of the Disney statement.

During planning sessions for The Lion King, Simba started out as a white lion until one of the animators spoke up: 'Not even OUR lawyers are THAT good!' Maybe so, but notice how both characters have a tuft of hair in the middle of their foreheads, and the very unusual dark ear rim. That alone shows how Kimba is the direct predecessor of Simba.

It is my opinion that the creative people at Disney most definitely knew of Kimba as they were making The Lion King-- but somehow, before the movie could be released, it was decided that the tie must be denied

Let's look at some more similarities...

picture 1 and 2: Both title characters turn to eating bugs to save their herbivore friends. In The Lion King, they blow past this idea in under a minute, but it was a major plot element in Kimba; the meat eaters tried eating plants until they hit on the idea of eating bugs.

picture 3 and 4: And more... the patch of thorns... (This scene called the matching scene from Kimba immediately to my mind. I couldn't believe how much alike they were.)

picture 5 and 6:...dangling from a cliff with the villain above...

picture 6 and 7: The antagonist lion in Kimba was introduced as his 'aunt', while Scar was Simba's uncle.

picture 8,9 , 10 and 11:and the stampede.

And there is of course the opening sequence of Jungle Emperor (the Japanese version of Kimba) and the parallel opening sequence of The Lion King. The most famous comparison of the two is the image of the lion on the jutting rock.

I've left for last the big thing everyone mentions when comparing the two works: the parent lion appearing in the sky. There's good reason people pay attention to this: When Kimba's mother appears to him in the stars shortly after being killed, it is one of the most touching and moving scenes in television animation history. And, several times during the Lion King, the idea of ancestors in the stars is mentioned. However, when Simba does have a vision of his father, it is in a cloud and (perhaps) the moon (there is a lot of light in that scene, which suggests the moon). This has a different parallel in Kimba.

In the episode 'Dangerous Journey', Kimba is faced with the need to undertake a, well, dangerous journey in order to save an important member of their community. He doesn't think he is capable of doing it, but that night his father appears to him in the moon, and convinces him that this is something he has to do.
In the Lion King, Simba is faced with the need to save his entire community, a task he doesn't think he is capable of doing until his father appears to him in the moon/clouds and convinces him that he can.
As you can see from these pictures, the moon imagery matches with the Kimba TV episode; the cloud imagery matches with the end of the original manga story.

In the episode 'Dangerous Journey', Kimba is faced with the need to undertake a, well, dangerous journey in order to save an important member of their community. He doesn't think he is capable of doing it, but that night his father appears to him in the moon, and convinces him that this is something he has to do.
In the Lion King, Simba is faced with the need to save his entire community, a task he doesn't think he is capable of doing until his father appears to him in the moon/clouds and convinces him that he can.
As you can see from pictures 12 and 13, the moon imagery matches with the Kimba TV episode; the cloud imagery matches with the end of the original manga story.






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TLK was inspired by Kimba's Anim
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February 19, 2013
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Matthew Broderick has said that when he was hired as the voice of Simba in The Lion King, he presumed the project was related to Kimba The White Lion. "I thought he meant Kimba, who was a white lion in a cartoon when I was a little kid," said Broderick. "So I kept telling everybody I was going to play Kimba!!'' Everyone who watched Kimba in 60's - 70's on TV knows which is the original. Disney or anyone cannot copy anything they want. It is against the Law.

February 18, 2013
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Saur, Bulba Bulbasaur!
Yes but it's up to Disney what they make. Simba means lion!

Be Honest, Disney
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February 18, 2013
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Kimba was not the original name. The original name was 'LEO' which means Lion. People who cannot believe Disney used the story of LEO/Kimba should watch the original series (made in 1965). Then you will understand they are very similar.

February 17, 2013
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Disney couldn't steal it, as they claimed they based it on Hamlet, and TLK2 is based on Romeo and Juliet. Every great TLK fan should hopefully know that :P

February 17, 2013
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ex mod, cheeky sod
I don't think disney stole kimba the white lion. the excuse that hs name is simmilar is stupid. simba definetly means lion in swahali, and i have no idea about kimba. This shouldn't really be an issue. They're 2 movies that are about lions. doesn't mean the lion king stole it.

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'Kimba the white lion' was made in 50's in Japan as manga (comic book) then adapted as TV animation in 1965. It was aired in US (1966 till 1978) and more than 10 other countries long time ago and many of Disney creators must had watched the program. From the opening theme and many details and concept story line are identical. I have watched all the episodes of Kimba and I could not believe that Disney denied the Lion King was made out of 'Kimba the white lion'. What a pity. Obviously Disney was afraid of 'copy right'. It's all about money. I love most of Disney movies and they are a large company enough to admit the fact they were inspired by Kimba's story. Kimba's production company decided not to continue fighting against Disney. But people who have watched Kimba before Lion king was made would known who is an awful liar. Of course Lion king looks better visually as they were made in 1994, while Kimba was made in 1965. If Disney stated the inspiration of Lion king was come from the Kimba's story when they released Lion king, this ugly arguments would have never happened.

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October 04, 2012
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Pride- This article was made in 2006. =/

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August 10, 2012
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Guys, can't you just drop this? -_- I'm tired of all this "Disney copied Kimba the White Lion!" thing. Can't you just quit making all those articles and saying the scenes are familiar enough to be stolen? This has been never confirmed, neither by Disney or Yoshihiro Takahashi (?). I don't know if it was stolen or not, even with many similiarities.

Now please, let's just stop this. It's pointless.

Guest
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August 10, 2012
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this is not true kimba is a stupid,simba is better than kimba

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July 29, 2012
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Simba is not a rip off of the name Kimba. Actually, Simba means "Brave" and "King" in African (I think). I read it in a book about lions.

But about Disney ripping off Kimba, I'm not sure.

July 21, 2012
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wow, why can't people just admit that they're both really good and enjoy both? Actually, in the original script, Lion King was barely the same as Kimba, Scar was a rogue, lala...
Simba's name isn't copied from kimba, it just so happens that Simba is lion in Swahili, (I think) so that fits in perfectly. The thing about the ear rims and tuft in the middle is barely a point in the argument, as the boys need -something- to look different to the girls, and since they're going to have manes when they're older, why not have a tuft to show that? The bug thing, well, Simba ate bugs because he was taught that, differently to Kimba. It's the details that count, you could broaden out lion king and lion king 2 so that hey both seem like the same movie, yet they're not.
Either way, even if Disney DID copy Kimba, doesn't that mean it's just as good as it? S let's just sit dow and enjoy both, yup?

Iluvlionking
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July 18, 2012
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It does sorta seem like they are copying it... When I first heard of the whole Kimba/Simba thing I was like:o ! But now I don't care. I will ALWAYS luv lion king:) But some people think Disney copied Kimba on the name too. Simba actually means "lion" in Swahili.

TLKfan#1
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January 02, 2012
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I always figured it was like that. they were going to make Simba white but other people disagreed on it. they also waited til the creator of Kimba The White Lion died before they made TLK

August 29, 2011
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i can't believe it. maybe disney just wanted to make a parody i don't know why disney did that. i heard of kimba the white lion but i never knew it would be like the lion king

July 02, 2009
Usa Is not currently on the site
you know When I was younger i saw a priview on one of my disney tapes for kimba the white lion and I was always like "WTF?? WHY IS SIMBA WHITE?!"

January 10, 2009
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my mom miet get me 3 sesons kimba the white lion:icon334:

August 26, 2007
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i think one copyed the other but u don't know which one i
mean the lion king could of copyed kimba or kimba copyed
lion king

July 11, 2007
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i don't like kimba but i love the lion king. Well you do
have evadence because they just took kimba's name and made
the k a s but simba so much better.

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February 06, 2007
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They probably did steal it.I don't know.

November 21, 2006
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yes.Kimba was made in 1965 so that's why tlk has better
animation but the "jungle emperor leo" movie came out in
1997 (2 years after tlk) and tlk has better animation than
it.

July 03, 2006
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i like both simba and kimba :Be_happy:

likin
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June 29, 2006
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THey do have their similarities and differences. But I wouldn't put it past Disney to copy Kimba, but I love them both

MeekoCatCool
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June 28, 2006
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Ya I didn't know about Kimba before LK came out...I'm glad I do now.

unknown
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June 28, 2006
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hey u know i also think that they copied some things from kimba but they didnt copy the whole story line and the thing with simba and his black outline on his ears, he problaby inherited that from his mother sarabi, look she is the only lioness with that feature, look it up...

also the whole story plot isnt copies from kimba and if you look it is really based on hamlet, yes i agree that disney shouldnt have copied in the first place, but now think about it, look at all the recongnition that kimba and its creator are getting...

June 27, 2006
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thnx for comments

June 21, 2006
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I believe that Disney did copy from Kimba. As perfectpureblood said, yes, the Lion King does have better animation, but you have to remember, Kimba was made in the 1960s so they did have technical limitations and it was also based on a manga so they stuck to the artist's style. I've not seen the original Kimba, but I'm very tempted to buy the box set once I get the money.

Oh and as a side note, the article posted here is a word-for-word copy from kimbawlion.com Here's the page's address so you can see the side-by-side picture comparisons. But thanks to Wolf QueenTCP(AF) for getting this on here and helping to get people informed! http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm


June 14, 2006
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their pretty similiar, there has to be no doubt that the makers of the lion king stole some aspects of Kimba, there are to many similarities. but the lion king is way more popular and well known, the animation is better, there are great songs, there's a broadway musical for heavens sake! but good article, those two pics of Mufasa and the white lion are pretty much identicle!

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June 14, 2006
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Leo is Kimba's name in Japan(It alwas was The rest of The world He is know as Kimba. Except when The story of Kimba as An (censored) was brought to The U.S.(20 years or so after it was made)by a different Company Than The one Who had Dubed The Original Series into English. They didn't have Legal right to use the name Kimba, So They had to stick with The Original Japanese names. That is Why Kimba as An (censored) is called Leo.

MeekoCatCool
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June 14, 2006
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Also, I have read somewhere that in the first pitch of LK Simba was white...but, later turned yellow. And, at the LK opening party a maker wore a homemade costume of a white lion. On www.kimbawlion.com you can find more info on LK and Kimba.;)

MeekoCatCool
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June 14, 2006
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Yes, Kimba dose get boring at some parts. And some cheap animation. I have never seen Jungle Emperor Leo but, I wish too some day once I get my hands on it. By the way dose anyone know why Kimba is sometimes called Leo?:/:

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