Scar's Pride - the Outlanders

Scar's Pride - the Outlanders

How Scar's pride of Outlanders possibly came to be . . .

Okay, okay. We all know that after Mufasa died, his brother, Scar (AKA Taka) took over the throne. Also, we know, thanks to TLK2, that Scar had lion followers and possibly a lead mate (Zira).

The only way this is possible is if his lionesses, the Outlanders, were originally from the pride that lived at Pride Rock!

I mean, when you think about it, it kind of makes sense:

- From what the movies show, there were no other prides nearby (well, they weren't shown anyway).
- While he was king, Scar had the control of all of the lionesses, meaning he had enough time to mate with as many females that he wanted (just like real male lions would do), to make sure that, in case something happened to him, he would have an immediate heir to the throne.
(IMO, this is probably how Nuka and Vitani came to be. No one is sure how Kovu truly became the heir when he was supposedly the 'last born' before their exile from the Pridelands.)

I mean, that would give Simba more of a reason to exile those that opposed him to the Outlands - for following Scar's rule.

It was a long period of time between Mufasa's death and the reuniting of Simba and Nala, which gives Scar lots of time to reproduce cubs with his blood in them, since most of the lionesses were out hunting, the hyenas were eating, and possibly there was a couple of females that were caring for cubs, even if they were the spawn of Scar.

I don't think that Scar knew of his 'followers' until after he took over Pride Rock, but before the 'Be Prepared' song in TLK, he did say he was 'surrounded by idiots' (meaning the hyenas) . . . if I remember correctly; I'm guessing he didn't like the hyenas that much, unless they did what he ordered.

This would give him more of a reason to try and convert lionesses to his side and make cubs, forming his own pride to help order around the still loyal lionesses (like Sarabi, Sarafina, and Nala). If there were any other lionesses that didn't live at Pride Rock, the Scar-loyal lionesses possibly forced them to join their pact of loyalty to King Scar.

In conclusion, it is unknown how the Outlanders really came to be, but this way makes the most sense. If Scar was so much of a lion, he would be forceful into making the lionesses his own, destroying all things that were not his own (mainly cubs) and weakening those that defied his rule.

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June 21, 2010
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interesting theory:icon335:

September 23, 2009
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Even after years of forum and debate, it seems like no one has come up with a perfect answer to the Lion King Plot holes. Will anyone? I highly doubt it! Every theory to date has its good ideas, at the same time, everyone of them can be torn apart. Some are opinion based, others rely on the straight facts, and still others seem to have come from people on opiates (no offense to anyone).

My point is the Einstein would do no better.

As fun as it may be to try to rationalize a plausible scenario, no one should put too much faith in one theory or the next.

Be open to the idea that Disney probably just made a grievous error, and now they are simply ready to cover up the whole mess.

Cause if you talk to someone who worked on the Lion King, anything you throw at them they'll agree to, cause they don't really know to begin with. If one asks if Kovu's father is a rogue lion they'll say probably. If you postulate that Scar is really Simba's father, they'll say maybe.

Thus I propose a knew theory that will in no way end all theories.

The great writer and designer came down. He said, let us make a sequel to the Lion King, and Disney made it so, and the writer/designer saw that it was good. Next the writer designer said, let us make a whole bunch of new, vibrant characters, and give no regard to their backstory at all. And the departments got to work, and the writer/designer saw it was good. Next the writer/designer said, let us send it too the cheapest editor available so we can make a larger profit. And so the film was sent off to a cheap editor, and the writer/designer saw that it was moderately good. Next the film went to video and in the middle of the night, the writer/designer, Disney and the editor, awoke and said Awww crap!

the end

I in no way mean any offense to the editor, Disney or the hardworking team that did the lion king. I also mean no offense to the story of Genesis, consider it an allusion to the story.

November 30, 2008
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i've always questioned where the outsiders came from. i always thought
that they were just some lionesses in the pride that took scar's side?

November 10, 2008
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thunderbalt:Scare DID mate with Zira,Scare and Zira's culbs are Nuka
and Vittani DUH EVERYONE KNOWS THAT well except for someone that drew
a picture i saw with nuka saying to vittani "why should i help you
your my half sister?".We have to look at the evedence in the lk1 and the lk2 nuka says "why should he be the king,Scars not even
his father? "reffering to kovu,so you see there is evidence that
scare mated with zira.

July 21, 2008
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Wow. This is a very well-written article, and it brings up an
interesting topic. I'm not entirely sure about mating: there's a scene
in the Broadway musical where Scar laments not having a queen or cubs,
then proceeds to flirt with Nala when she walks in. But it's a good,
well thought out article nonetheless.

"If Scar
didn't mate with anyone then who is the father of Nuka and Vitani?"
"He's more than likely the father of Nuka at least! Just accept
How about the same lion who's Kovu's father? If Zira had
already had kids with Scar and loved him SO much (you can't argue that
Zira didn't love Scar), why would she cheat on him? It always made
more sense to me that all three of Zira's kids had the same father,
and THEN she met Scar. It's much simpler, really. Nuka doesn't really
act like Scar was his father, either. Watch this.

November 25, 2007
Uk Female Is not currently on the site
ye they were part of the pride but simba banished them for
following scar before kiara was born.

May 31, 2007
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Wait, so Zira could have been part of theire, pride, she
said she DID get exhiled!

April 27, 2007
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Good arcticle!Probably the reason why that the outsiders
were vanished probably was because they only followed Scar
the whole time instead of Mufasa and Simba.

March 18, 2007
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You thought about outlanders? That’s great. Look farther and
you will see that you are wrong. SP can not be positioned as
TLK2, because there is [u]no explanation about
outlanders[/u]. You can suggest that Scar made many cubs but
it’s natural for females to mate with the only male. Simba
may be not too glad about but this is his personal problem.
[u]There is no conflict inside pride.[/u]

[quote] convert lionesses to his side [/quote]

He must offer to them something really great. Something
literally to die for. But lionesses lived well under
Mufasa’s reign and not so well under Skar’s. So lionesses
have no reasons to believe Scar.

destroying all things that were not his own (mainly cubs)

Nice way to get support from the
lionesses. To kill their cubs. No comments. X)

March 09, 2007
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
It makes sense.It has a fantastic point to it.Good
article...Keep it up.

February 07, 2007
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Wow!Great article and nice research!

September 01, 2006
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who is nala's father? it seems to mem liound at that time were mufasa and scar and if one of them were her father then the it too would be inscest!

June 28, 2006
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lion: That was extremely rude. It's an excellent article and brings up a fantastic point that was never fully explained in the movie.

June 27, 2006
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
I'm not a wolf. Kthxbai.
Silverhowl->> Scar matted with Zira. He's more than likely the father of Nuka at least! Just accept that.
And nice article!! I've never really thought of where that outsider pride came from!

May 29, 2006
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I recall a line that goes something like
"I banished you from the pridelands."
and "You know what the price is for RETURNING to the pridelands"

so obviously they were banished at some point in time...

also, they kinda made the plot obvious in the beginning of TLK2... think about it, a female cub... with no male cub... in other words the pride would have been doomed unless she met kovu and they mated down the road.

Never was there another cub in TLK1 or TLK2 (except nala of course)

May 28, 2006
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Silverhowl:If Scar didn't mate with anyone then who is the father of Nuka and Vitani?

May 01, 2006
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
WQ > Balto > WoC
Or Kovu's father abandoned him and Zira, perhaps? I dunno. This is one of those questions that has lots of solutions, but we'll probably never know the real answer.

April 30, 2006
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Zira was scar's mate but he wasn't Kovu's farther but I think he was Nuka's and or maybe Vitani. I think Zira cheated on him and had Kovu but he accepted Kovu because he looked like him. and the rest werwe just loyal follwers.

April 30, 2006
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
WQ > Balto > WoC
Nessa: I was thinking that too. I just thought the whole situation over, and it's obvious that something went on while Simba was away (believed to be dead) and Scar was in rule.

April 30, 2006
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
WQ > Balto > WoC
Thunderbolt: I never said that she did. Actually, I never said that at all; I just said that Scar must have mated with the lionesses in order to spread his bloodline, allowing an heir from his blood, that's all.

April 29, 2006
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Scar didn't mate with Zira!!!

April 29, 2006
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
kinda makes sense. good article. i think the outlanders were just followers of scar till the realized Kiara was right but great article.

May 10, 2006
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Original: The Lion King
Italy: Il Re Leone:P

May 13, 2006
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good point, that sounds about right

May 17, 2006
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May 02, 2006
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
WQ > Balto > WoC
Thanks, Domino! It's just a theory, but I think it makes perfect sense, especially if this were based on the lifestyles of real lions.

May 09, 2006
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
WQ > Balto > WoC
Silverhowl: How do you know? The first film goes from Scar taking over and then focuses on Simba and his new life with Timon and Pumbaa. It never mentions what else Scar did while he was in charge, so anything could happen, really. (And also, this is a children's movie by Disney. Do you really think they would mention anything about Scar mating (or worse, raping) any of the lionesses? Of course not.) That's just my thought on this.

May 06, 2006
Ireland Female Is not currently on the site
:! I dont understand, but I do know that SCAR DIDNT MATE WITH ANYONE.

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