Scar & Sarabi = Zira?

Scar   &  Sarabi = Zira?


Reasons as to why I believe Zira is related to Scar and Sarabi


 

Just a theory I've been playing with that I felt like sharing. 

What if Zira is the daughter of Scar and Sarabi?


Scar



Zira has very similar fur colour to Srabi, for one. They both have darker eye-shades and both have red eyes.



And obviously she has the looks of Scar. The skinny body, nose, the overall pointed look Outlander lions have.



I know some people could argue that Sarabi has orange eyes, but it is still possible for a cub to in-herit red. Mufasa is Scar's brother, and he obviously has red eyes. This means somewhere in Scar's family line someone carries Red eyes, right? The same could be said for Sarabi, especially since we don't see her parents in any TLK media, so it is all up in the air.



As for her Stripes and ear-strips - well, the same could be said for them. Perhaps Uru or another relative had a stripe or ear strips, this would mean Scar carries them in his genes. The same could be said for Sarabi, so I'm not going to repeat myself.  (Plus Sarabi was seen with a stripe in some concept art - just thought I'd throw that in there)



Now I've explained why I'm going to tell you how I think it could work.



We are never told how long the time-gap between when Simba runs-away and when he returns really is, so we can pretty much assume anything happened. All we know is that Simba is a young adult when Nala finds him and brings him back.



This would mean that there is perfectly enough time for Scar and Zira to have a cub, and let it grow to at least a young adult, and possibly even give birth to Nuka and become pregnent with Vitani and or Kovu (depending on whether or not you believe she is his real mother or not)



Perhaps Sarabi was still Queen when Scar became King, and due to Scar pressuring her into having a heir, or  perhaps due to tradition (you decide) they had a cub. Unfortunatley, Sarabi had a female, and Scar saw her as unable to be the heir due to being female. Then, perhaps Scar took Zira away and raised her himself, which would explain her devotion to him and her behavior.



These are my reasons as to why I believe that Zira is related to Sarabi and Scar, I hope you enjoyed reading my article. :)



 



If you have any questions, feel free to ask :3







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June 01, 2019
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I'm sorry, but I can't believe this theory. Not only has the director confirmed that Zira is Scar's wife, but its also confirmed that Scar had no cubs of his own. Furthermore, if Zira was Scar's daughter, her and Simba would be half siblings/first cousins, making Kovu and Kiara half first/second cousins.

September 14, 2015
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sorry but that doesn't prove anything about Nuka being Scar's son...

September 14, 2015
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Interesting theory but i realise something..... During one scene in the lion king 2, Nuka says "Kovu, Kovu, Kovu..Scar was not even his father. He just took him in" that means Nuka is the son of Scar. So if Zira was the daughter of Scar, that would make Nuka and Zira siblings. Their age difference is quite far and Nuka calls Zira 'mother'. This make says that Zira is one generation above him or his actual mother. So we know that Zira is his mother or step mother or adoptive mother, so I do not think Scar would want to mate with his own daughter. I like this theory but it is not logical





August 04, 2015
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I think so. I thought she called Scar Scar instead of father because she never really forgave him for killing Simba. When she refers to Scar it's like referring to the darker part of herself.
"Careful Zira love dose funny things to the heart. I should know it made mine larger then broke it. It made me cling to the past." Sarabi said. Zira looked at the old lioness knowing she could never repay her.

August 03, 2015
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Please, PLEASE stop spamming old articles with your fan theories involving fan characters that are not even yours.

February 02, 2015
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Carlie stop spamming if you have nothing revelant to say.

February 02, 2015
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Secretly a fairy
It's JUST a theory, calm down

Carlie
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February 02, 2015
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What the heck! I don't know what is going on.

September 15, 2014
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whats a group
good idea, i like it, and seems logical, but I don't know, I feel like Scar was Zira's "mate" but then again they never said, ( at least i cant remember) lol

June 20, 2013
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While Scar ruled he had cubs from all the lioness, even with Sarabi. But Scar+Srabi=Zira is kinda creepy... If they are father and daughter how can they have a cub together?!

I AM 100% SURE THAT NUKA IS THEIR CUB!!!!!!


warrior wolves
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February 03, 2013
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I say that Scar wouldn't have cubs with his own daughter that would be gross!!!!!!:crazy: :crazy: :39: :icon305:

January 02, 2013
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Saur, Bulba Bulbasaur!
I think its possible

January 02, 2013
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@RabidBearLove
Well, I believe that the lions in TLK universe don't age the way real lions do. For one, the lions are very humanized, the have kingdoms, kings, subjects, hey talk, aka they do lots of very human things. There's also a tiny line from the song 'Be prepared' that suggests that the lions don't age the way they are supposed to, in which Scar sings, 'Decades of denial'. Now, a decade is 10 years, add the s onto it and that makes 'decades', which mean that Scar has been denied the throne for 20 years or more, far longer than how real lions age. -shrug- so yeah xD'

@VC
Geez, don't be a stick in the mud! xD Let me clarify: I know the creators or TLK did not want Zira to be the daughter of Scar and Sarabi. I know that's not what they intend. I don't take any of this 'too seriously' at all, it's all for fun! I know that Disney would never, ever put this in their films. And that's what the TLK fandom is about! It isn't about 'who can have the most canon theory!' It's about who can come up with creative theories and having fun. If anything, you're taking this way too seriously, not me.
Haha! I was waiting for someone to say that! Yes, I know they made the outlanders look the way they do because they're 'evil' or whatever. But in the films, Scar doesn't suddenly proclaim, 'I look the way I do because I'm eeeeviiiil!' xD All I'm doing here is finding an explanation for why they look the way they do.

All I'm saying is that it's just a theory, believe what you want, but I think it's possible :3 I'm not pulling my hair out trying to find out why this happened, or why that happened, I'm just curious, having fun, and want to see what I can come up with. And while Scar taking Zira in seems a lot more likely...it's just...BORING XD In fact that is what I believe happened, everything you say, I believe it HAPPENED. but for a story-teller's sake, why not have some fun and shake things up a bit? It's not me taking it too seriously or reading too deep into things, it's me having FUN. :3

December 21, 2012
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I honestly don't think that Zira could be Scar+Zira's cub because the timeline for it doesn't work. Three years for Zira growing up, then three more years for Nuka (many people believe he's an adolescent but Zira wouldn't mate again until he was full grown). And then some for Vitani/Kovu. So that's about six years of Scar ruling the Pridelands and that would make Simba almost 7 years old. And lions usually live for 10-15 years in the wild. So by the end of TKL 2, that would make Simba about 10, and he is not that old!

Besides, Zira always came off as the same age as Scar to me.

But I did like the article!

Zira does look A LOT like Sarabi and I never noticed that before!

VC
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December 14, 2012
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You guys take this too seriously. Lion King II is a kid's movie based on Romeo and Juliette. The reason why the outsiders look the way they do is to differentiate the "evil" lions from the good lions. Nuka is mainly for comic relief until he dies (Tybalt). That is also why Kovu resembles Scar enough to give him an "outsider" look as well as give Simba nightmares, while being fluffy enough (compared to Nuka and Vitani) to be associated with the good lions. If you are looking for reasons why Zira and her pride are loyal to Scar and have the outlander look, then I have a simple suggestion. They were outsiders from the beginning. In LKI Scar ruled during a famine/drought. It is quite possible that he found a pride of roaming, starving lionesses who lost their male leader (Possibly Zira's mate) and joined Scar's pride before the famine hit pride rock. Zira is loyal to Scar because he took her in and she is unfamiliar with Simba or Mufasa, and therefore doesn't view Simba as the rightful King. This would also explain her grudge against Simba, and her extreme loyalty to Scar.

December 11, 2012
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I just found this, and zira does look alot like sarabi, i think it is definatley possible! that would explain alot of the resentment towords simba. And if scar did mate with his daughter zira, that might explain why nuka is so messed up. like scruffy and he never really gets a full mane. i think they would put that in disneymovie. why not, animals and people die in disney all the time, so incest wouldnt really be that much of a stretch for them. and its not like they put it right out there for the viewer, they leave it up to us to disect and figure out. deffinatley possible =)

December 02, 2012
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i agree :!

November 14, 2012
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Yes, this is my own idea here. I believe Scar is BOTH Zira's father and mate. I believe that he never told Zira he was her father and forced Sarabi to keep quiet, then went on to seduce Zira. It's dark, yeah, and yeah... it's kinda sick, but, it's the same guy who tried to murder both his brother and A CHILD. But I do support.

SarabiMirage
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November 14, 2012
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P.s when I say she doesn't know, I meant she doesn't know Sarabis her mother.
P.p.s like deedee says, fan characters don't count and yes, I believe Uru has a stripe. And I believe she has ear strips, and bla bla bla... Dancing banana! :icon106:

SarabiMirage
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November 14, 2012
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I totally agree with the theory, and LovesSimba... Maybe zira wanted to be his queen instead of her mother. Or maybe she doesn't know... I see your point though. Anyway, more important than this... Dancing banana!:icon106: :allears:

lovesimba28
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November 14, 2012
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Great theory! But if Scar was Zira's father why would she want to be his queen...?
(If you watch the deleted scenes in the lion king II you'll see she wanted to be his queen) Wouldn't it be a bit unluckily for her to want to be her father's mate?

October 26, 2012
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Uh, Meemee? Fan characters don't count in this. This isn't a mix and match session where we take your theory and my theory and smash them together to make sense (or no sense). For all we know Uru might not have a stripe, etc etc. But all that aside, whats the 'evidence' disproving my theory? I'd be interested in knowing :3

August 29, 2012
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Meemee, the characters you speak of DO NOT exist. They're just fan characters. They're not official.

August 29, 2012
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ex mod, cheeky sod
anyway, dotti2020 I believe her mother is hasara and shaka and she got her stripe from xolo her grandmother.

August 29, 2012
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aiyanna-kopa its what I believe:icon335:

August 29, 2012
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Meemee and Dotti2020: Neither Azola or Hasara are officially Zira's mother, both are presumably someone's fan charries.

August 29, 2012
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Dotti2020: I'm pretty sure her mother is hasara and if it was then it would definently explain vitani's blue eyes because hasara had those eyes, but thats another story.
its possible that sarabi and scar are the parents. you are right. uru has a stripe similar to zira's on her head. Despite not being what I believe, there is alot of evidence that would make sense, but there is alot of evidence disproving this, but I won't get into thatlol .

July 21, 2012
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It hasn't officially been confirmed that Nuka is the son of Scar guys xD So it's all up in the air. People seem to be fine with the idea that Kovu is cousin to Kiara, and other people even have Scar and Zira being half-brother and sister and then having Nuka. So I don't think it matters too much if it is incest, especially since lions mate with their daughters in the wild anyway. Although it's true it probably wouldn't happen in a Disney film, but -shrug- it's not official so I don't see why it matters too much.

Nuka could just be the son of Zira and a rogue, it doesn't necessarily have to be Scar who is the father. Plus, it would explain why Nuka is slightly crazy and why he looks....'odd'. :)

July 21, 2012
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I watched nature shows all the time as a kid and I'm not messed up

Guest
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July 21, 2012
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Simba: I know I just dont think Disney would put stuff like that in the lion king it would mess up younger viewers mind

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