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Author:  Jake Razor [ Tue May 17, 2011 8:30 pm ]
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spottedfawn0096 wrote:
Dragon Tamer wrote:
I really enjoyed the sequel. I have to admit my relationship with my dad was never the best. Seeing Bambi get along so well with his... well, it never fails to tug at my heartstrings.


Awwww I'm sorry about your dad. My dad and I don't always get along great, either. Our views on spirituality/religion have created a void... Bambi2 tugged on my heart, too.

Yeah, religion and spirituality were a major division between me and my dad too. And him and Mom ('nuff said).

He didn't like my views on cryptozoology much either, but that's another story.

Author:  angryunicorn [ Wed May 18, 2011 3:26 pm ]
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Imagine wrote:
WARNING!! SPOILERS TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER SEEN THE SEQUEL!

Yes, I really liked the sequel, just not as much as the first. (movie sequels don't usually live up to their previous movie. There ARE some exceptions though *cough* toy story *cough* XD)

Anyway, the only thing I didn't like about Bambi 2 was that it was more for little kids, probably because Bambi was still a fawn, and most of the characters weren't adults, so older people probably wouldn't relate to it as much. Just my thought. But I loved the fact that they picked a point in the middle of the first movie that wasn't well explained, like where the Great Prince tells Bambi that his mother cannot be with him any more, and they made a whole new story explaining what happened between that scene, and the "Spring Song" scene where Bambi is all grown up.

They kinda did the same thing with Tarzan, but really it didn't work out as well, because the song "Son of Man" in the first movie just explained what happened as he was growing up, and it didn't need the sequel to explain anything more. Sorry I'm getting off topic XD

What I also liked about the second movie was that it was very well animated, it had great songs in it, plus they gave references to the first movie, like Bambi fighting Ronno, and when Mina gets caught in a trap, she tells Bambi "Don't look back, keep running, keep running!" (Bambi's mom said the exact same thing right before she was killed).

ONE more thing! I ALSO liked how they showed a soft and caring side of the Great Prince, instead of this mysterious figure (which I liked about him too). And that when he's teaching Bambi how to be the leader of the forest one day, Bambi was kinda teaching him how to have fun once and a while. And when it seemed like a good idea at first to give Bambi to a new doe, by the end of the movie, that couldn't be done because of the great bond the great prince and Bambi had.

Okay, I think I covered everything. In conclusion, I really liked the movie, and it was better than most disney sequels, like Fox and the Hound 2(though that one wasn't too bad), Tarzan 2, Cinderella 2, and any other bad disney sequel I forgot to put down. Thank you for reading this incredibly long post!


This preetty much sums it up for me. However, Imma add a few things xDD

Besides the smooth animation, the nice explanation of SOME events that happened between Bambi's mother's death and him growing up, and of course Patrick Stewart deer, the other things they included were a very nice touch.

First some quirks. Bambi talked WAY too much for his character. He may be young and playful, but he was still a deer, and deer, as portrayed in the first movie, are very quiet creatures, mostly using their body language to get a message across. The problem with kids stuff is they think there needs to be dialogue for children to understand what is happening. That is far from the case. Very young kids can't even understand language very well, but like all human beings, they're very sensitive to emotions in the face and body. Music plays a big part in it too.

And I know that Thumper's voice actor is "out of commission" I think a better job could've been found for him.

My big problem as far as CHARACTER goes is that Faline had the most drastic of character changes. Everyone else stays true to their character BUT Faline. What happened to that hyperactive giggly fawn that I met in the first movie? She was giddy and playful, rambunctious and had an incredibly contagious laugh. I LOVED her when I was a kid and she's still one of my favorite under-rated characters. I mean, yeah, one could argue that by this time she's growing up and calmed down a bit, but she still has her spots, so not THAT much time has past since we first saw her. And I thought it was unnecessary to "progress" her relationship with Bambi. I mean, we already know they end up together on a whim in the first movie after not seeing each other for quite some time. Altho I was very happy to see her again in this movie.

I also thought that bringing in "new" facial expressions was unnecessary on their part.

However, despite its easily-fixable flaws, I enjoyed this movie very much. The backgrounds were clean and soft and full of color like in the first movie. After they cleaned the first movie up for Blue-Ray, it was almost like they took direct captures of the first movie's backgrounds. The background animals kept their adorably curious charm, I especially loved the groundhog (i can see why all the forest animals would want to be there for the birth of a prince, but to see if the groundhod sees his shadow? Eh, whatevs).

I liked that they kept Bambi wanting to prove that he's brave to his father a subplot in the movie. I was scared when the first scene I saw was Bambi trying to be "brave". I thought the entire movie's focus was going to be that, but they proved me wrong by showing the Great Prince develop. He turned soft, which was nice.

And I LOOOOVE that they added in spunky little Ronno. This was my hope for the movie and he was exactly how I imagined he'd be xD He was a complete bamf in the first movie, and showing that Bambi and him met when they were young was great. After reading the book, I was sad that you didn't see Ronno until closer to the end of the first movie, when they had even been friends in their childhood. Then after seeing this, all was forgiven xD (I just wished they threw Karus in!) Alot of people didn't like Ronno because he was a brat. So what? You don't know his story, and he probably had a bad relationship with his own father. I mean, he did seem very happy to see the Great Prince (which by the way, he was described to be many of the fawn's father.) Plus he put up a VERY good fight in the first movie.

Mina was a delightful character. She wasn't in it for very long, but she didn't give you any reason to dislike her.

The chase scene with the dogs proved to be very impressive for the movie. The best part about it that it's still intense, without it trying to compete with the dog scene in the first movie, which is beyond comparable. Little Bambi was able to keep his own without actually doing any fighting. And good on him, because it takes alot of energy to keep evading a pack like that xD Also the fight scene between the Great Prince and the dogs was very intense. He treated it like the dogs were nothing. The lighting, tho dramatic, seemed a BIT forced, but I could totally see what they were wanting to do with it. Also in a good note, I'm glad that Man remained unseen like in the first movie. It keeps the "mystery" the first movie wanted to do, since it was the only way to keep the same fear in the creature as you get from the book.

The songs in it, tho pretty, were probably the only thing furthest from the first movie. They were too modern and didn't really fit like the chorus of songs in the first movie did. It's all I can really say, it just sounded like they were promoting some unknown artist that has remained unknown even after the movie's release.

Overall, it was a good movie. It kept the spirit of the first movie, which is more than what I could ask for. It answered a few good questions, and didn't butcher a darn thing. The songs were all right, and the childish humor didn't cause as much face-palming as I expected it would. I personally bought this movie, but it's not necessary for one's collection.

Author:  ChingChongChi-Neez [ Wed May 18, 2011 11:08 pm ]
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It was pretty neat about Bambi's childhood and how Bambi meets an enemy, Ronno, that tries to steal his friend. The bad thing about this movie was that it was kinda dull, it's an updated version of the original movie that's juz shows Bambi's childhood and it cuts off the adult part, but overall it's good.

Author:  Roi Doberwolf [ Thu May 19, 2011 1:00 pm ]
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catwhohas14tails wrote:
First some quirks. Bambi talked WAY too much for his character. He may be young and playful, but he was still a deer, and deer, as portrayed in the first movie, are very quiet creatures, mostly using their body language to get a message across. The problem with kids stuff is they think there needs to be dialogue for children to understand what is happening. That is far from the case. Very young kids can't even understand language very well, but like all human beings, they're very sensitive to emotions in the face and body. Music plays a big part in it too.

As Wall*E comes to mind. That movie was fantastic and told the story perfectly with the lack of dialogue in it. I hear kids couldn't follow that very well though because of it. And it made others loose interest.


catwhohas14tails wrote:
Alot of people didn't like Ronno because he was a brat. So what? You don't know his story, and he probably had a bad relationship with his own father. I mean, he did seem very happy to see the Great Prince (which by the way, he was described to be many of the fawn's father.) Plus he put up a VERY good fight in the first movie.

Perhaps another Mufasa/Scar relationship? Ronno being a possible half brother is this were the case, might've been jealous that his younger and probably weaker brother gets the title of young prince.


catwhohas14tails wrote:
Also in a good note, I'm glad that Man remained unseen like in the first movie. It keeps the "mystery" the first movie wanted to do, since it was the only way to keep the same fear in the creature as you get from the book.

On this I really agree! It was always a favorite effect in some of my favorite horror films. Keeping the villain hidden to make them seem even more threatening. It's like they were bringing your fear of the dark to life for you don't know what's in it.
Though now I understand what 'man' is, when I was little I found them very frightening for we never saw them and they could've been anywhere.



*agrees with Cat* Unlike Fox and the Hound 2 which was completely random and didn't make any sense as to why it even NEEDED to be made in the first place, Bambi 2 was good for a sequel. And a flashback type even!

Author:  Juuchan17 [ Tue May 24, 2011 2:20 am ]
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If you're talking about the movie "Bambi II" [AKA "Bambi and the Great Prince of the Forest" - its name before making it sound more like an unnecessary sequel/midquel], I am rather neutral on the subject.

A part of me believes that it was quite pointless and just another excuse by Disney to keep Bambi looking young and cute instead of making an actual sequel that continues Bambi's journey from the original film's end. Yes, youthful characters in sequels tend to sell more movies - why else do you think they made Tarzan II and the Fox and the Hound II? It wasn't really to continue their stories, that's for sure. Maybe that's also a reason why in sequels with older characters, they tend to add unnecessary kid characters or have canon young characters to keep the little ones appealed... but I digress.

The story is good though - it's good to see the father figure get to know this little prince that is destined to be his successor, despite how much he doesn't want to. They did keep some truth about deer in the film - only does raise the young, and males watch over and protect them and their does from danger, not doing any of the fawn-raising. Yes, they aren't like humans at all, but for some reason, they try so hard to make this relate-able to how kids and even parents see dealing with a child losing a parent and bonding with the other. But again, it's a tale about growing up and it's Disney - they're going to get their points across somehow.

The characters themselves... only the Great Prince and Ronno were actually interesting to watch. Naturally, the Prince gets more screen time to show off his princely-ness [and with Patrick Stuart as his voice? No one else could do it better.] and grow from a "regal-all-the-time" Great Prince into a Prince that could lighten up and be the real father that his son needed. And Ronno... despite also being in the original film - remember the other buck that Bambi fought for Faline? That was him! - the midquel gives him more personality. Not only is he the obvious rival for our little prince, but it's great to see a similar scene replayed out in this film to help show how mean he is and will soon be.

Most other characters, both familiar and new, just.... didn't feel right. Not even Bambi! Most scenes and situations were hit and miss, but I agree that Bambi was too chatty and Thumper should have just.... chilled, but most of the other characters just didn't real right all these years later, though Mena - a new character important to the film's climax - may be an exception.

I agree with what a lot of people have said about the backgrounds - they are stunning! That is the strongest point in the whole movie, as it was in the first film as well. Even the animation is fluid and smooth! No wonder some countries ended up releasing this film in theaters - it could easily pass as one. The songs were unnecessary, but were nice to go with the visuals.

It's definitely high up there on my list of favorite Disney sequels, and for sequels in general [no matter how unnecessary it happens to be]. I remember I bought my copy of it the day it first was released, and I really don't regret it one bit... I just think the Bambi series was better left alone, that's all.

- Juuchan17

Author:  WolfHardy [ Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:52 am ]
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I absolutly love the sequel! Apart from Simbas Pride its the best disney sequel ever made. wait I forgot lady and the tramp 2! :)
To me ... the 2nd one is more personal .. I can relate to it more. I think its beautifully animated, not cheap looking. The voice actors are brilliant and they used music from the origional which makes it even better.
I have a personal relationship with my father .. which makes me love this movie to see bambi and his father become so close.
They simply made the story of bambi even better, and the Great Prince is my favourite character :)
And it has that beast of line that has me in stiches ... .Bambi princes do not WOO HOO! XD
They did walt proud

Author:  Starlioness [ Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:00 pm ]
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hmm.. well, far from being close to the original, but I think It's the best DTV Disney Sequel, I've seen though the little mermaid Prequel was good too.. ( they even drew elements from this movie for it)..

and I think Andreas Deja was either a consultant or animator for this movie.. I forget which..

(he's the Supervising animator for Gaston, Jafar, Scar, and many others ;))

and yeah, young Ronno does look like a fawn Kovu Don't he ?:)

Author:  Iron_Leopard [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:39 pm ]
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Bambi II started off really good but then it kind of fell off towards the half way point. But yeah I liked it enough to own it. Which I do :)

Author:  DogQuest [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:01 pm ]
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Eh.it was okay.In my opinion,it was mediocere.The best Disney sequel is TLK2 in my book,with Bambi 2 and Lady+Tramp 2 behind.I also like Jungle Book 2.

Author:  E-122-Psi [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:57 pm ]
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Roi Doberwolf wrote:
*agrees with Cat* Unlike Fox and the Hound 2 which was completely random and didn't make any sense as to why it even NEEDED to be made in the first place, Bambi 2 was good for a sequel. And a flashback type even!


No sequels are really needed, there purpose is solely for those interesting in seeing the original's concepts and characters again (or you know, milking for money). Most of the complaints I've seen about Bambi II are actually less about the film itself and more how unneccessary it was, most that like it even agree, though praise that they at least used that opportunity well.

It was nice they actually put a lot more effort into this sequel/midquel/whatever, they obviously had some recognition of their older works' nostalgia. They also managed to find a clever way of utilizing the younger Bambi that's MUCH more iconic than his adult form.

I think animation and ambience plays a lot into this. It looks on par with one of their main projects they were making at the time (Bambi 2 was in fact planned to be a theatrical film), the plot itself is admitedly a bit clunky and basic (if still endearing) though the budget and care gives it a lot of atmosphere and emotion. The characters translate rather well into the modern directions more evolved development and portrayals, feeling a bit more three dimentional. Overall it feels like the staff were trying for a slightly more experimental and fresh take with the film, though still putting a lot of care and authenticity with the concepts and universe, both of which a lot of Disney sequels are accused of lacking, usually making for cheap, badly made rehashes.

I admit the early half is a bit uneventful and, as expected from Bambi, mindlessly cute (though I can stand cute if it has personality, which Bambi very much does), the climax however is well done, and shows Bambi evolving and 'taking a level in badass' in a well crafted and dramatic manner.

I kinda wished they had used the prototype name 'Bambi And The Great Prince' however, it sounds much more dynamic (not to mention more chronologically correct) and screams 'cheap DTV sequel' a lot less.

Author:  Alicane [ Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:10 am ]
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Bambi II was a disney sequel that i think was better that the original, in my opinion... :roll:

Author:  BaltoSeppala [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:27 am ]
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Technically, this sequel was what is usually referred to as a "doughnut hole"...a story within a story. It fits into the original one by filling in the gaps between the early scenes of the original movie, and the latter ones. Kinda neat when you think about it, and a type of story not often done in the industry.

Author:  Jake Razor [ Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:41 pm ]
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JerseyCaptain wrote:
Technically, this sequel was what is usually referred to as a "doughnut hole"...a story within a story. It fits into the original one by filling in the gaps between the early scenes of the original movie, and the latter ones. Kinda neat when you think about it, and a type of story not often done in the industry.

I believe the technical word is "midquel," although I like your version.

Author:  BaltoSeppala [ Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:11 pm ]
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Dragon Tamer wrote:
JerseyCaptain wrote:
Technically, this sequel was what is usually referred to as a "doughnut hole"...a story within a story. It fits into the original one by filling in the gaps between the early scenes of the original movie, and the latter ones. Kinda neat when you think about it, and a type of story not often done in the industry.

I believe the technical word is "midquel," although I like your version.

Then both must be used. I have only heard the one. Perhaps "midquel" is some new term in recent use.

Author:  Jake Razor [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:28 pm ]
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JerseyCaptain wrote:
Dragon Tamer wrote:
JerseyCaptain wrote:
Technically, this sequel was what is usually referred to as a "doughnut hole"...a story within a story. It fits into the original one by filling in the gaps between the early scenes of the original movie, and the latter ones. Kinda neat when you think about it, and a type of story not often done in the industry.

I believe the technical word is "midquel," although I like your version.

Then both must be used. I have only heard the one. Perhaps "midquel" is some new term in recent use.

That's possible.

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