Animation Source news
NEW Staff changes

Written by steet :



 

As announced previously by a news, I'm changing the staff on Animation Source to a smaller, easier to manage and more neutral one.

But first, I want everyone to know that I have updated the rules to reflect my current sensibility on the problems that occured on the site these years.
I have made rules less « strict » and more leaning on common sense.
I think it's important that EVERYONE listens to MY « RULES » on the sites. There's been so many people making their own rules and spreading them, even visitors, that it's caused the site a lot of conflicts.

Especially, the big changes are :

- Multi accounts are tolerated, but can be banned if one of them behaves incorrectly.
- Signatures maximum width is now 1000px instead of 600px. This is to reflect the bigger screen resolution used now, when compared to 7 years ago...
- I've changed the "DO NOT" rules to "AVOID". I've never meant that breaking one rule would immediately result in a ban.
- Sexual talks will be banned as soon as a few people report them. (or immediately if it's CLEARLY an attempt to offend people, eg posting nude pictures)

The only VALID rules to follow on the site are these ones :

- This topic is the global rules for the whole site (including shout boxes) : https://www.animationsource.org/board/rules-read-before-posting-t832.html

- As for fan creations, the only valid rules are the ones displayed when sending fanarts / fanfics / etc

ANYTHING ELSE has not been validated by me and should not be taken as reference.
 



Secondly, this is the guideline I have sent to the new staff. I'm posting it here so that everyone knows about it :

- Be lenient on the rules. For example, someone posting some SMS words on shout box does not even need a warning! You need only to react if someone is behaving badly on PURPOSE, or is DISTURBING the other visitors. Focus on the MOST IMPORTANT!

Another example : I don't mind people double/triple posting or even more in a row, on the shout box or the forums, as long as it's to post real information.

When it comes to political, sex, religious talks, etc...it's the same thing. If no one is annoyed by the messages, then let it go. Otherwise, try to advice (not warn, advice!) the user that some other members are annoyed and to please change topic. If the member reacts badly, then it deserves a warn, and a ban if it persists. I advice : two warnings in the 24 hours, then a ban.

Another example from Skul recently...
"I was wondering two things. First, is "Sweet Jesus" being said on the shout boxes, considered against the rules? Jesus Christ is a swear, and Jesus itself is religious talk, so I was wondering, why not?"
Here is my answer : => I would say it depends on the person attitude : if the person is clearly saying that to offend people, then yes, you can take action. If it's just an expression but the person has a coherent/interesting talk involved, then I have no problem with that.
There's part of subjectivity in that - but it cannot work any other way. Otherwise, it's 1984 all over again. (I mean the Orwell book)

- Be helpful. Moderators are here to moderate (captain obvious, here I come!) but also to help the visitors. Be nice to them!

- Multi accounts : tolerated, do not warn or ban multi-accounts unless someone is behaving badly, or the username/profile is clearly intended to offend people.
- Same thing for the fan creations : if it's not something offending (= not too bloody, sexual, religious, stolen art etc...), and it respects the other rules stated on the respective send page, then you can activate it.

- Keep the rules simple. Use common sense. Please, please, no nonsense like making lists of "the allowed and the forbidden SMS words"!!! No one is ever going to read these.

Do you get the general feeling? I won't make a more detailed list of rules - you only have to understand THIS. As long as someone isn't being OFFENSIVE to other people, there's no reason to act. It's THE global rule.

- No one should be added to the staff without me approving it first.

Moderators rules : if someone is breaking one of these rules, and it seems necessary to take action :

- If the same member has already been warned/banned many times previously about the same thing, mods can immediately ban the member.

- If the situation requires immediate action, such as member who is clearly provoking the other members by posting "LOLOLOLOL" on the shout box repeatedly, posting porn pictures (these are examples), immediately ban the member.

- Otherwise, send a warning PM/email to the member. Try to be formal, with tact : you should HELP the member, not criticize him. Invite him to change his attitude by being nice. If the member still continues to act badly, send another warning. If it happens again  (even if it's days after the first warning), you can ban the member.

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Thirdly, here is the list of the members who are part of the new moderating staff :

Kirada, Jazzywolf, Moss, Flitzalys, Roi Doberwolf

This is for a start. I'll probably add more later, but finding the right persons is a lot of work.
They will be Global Moderators on all the AS sites. And that's how it should be : members are cross-sites, the moderating should be too.
Also, all mods will be EQUALS, meaning they can moderate all the sites and have the exact same permissions.

I didn't mention it, but for now, I'll be in charge of managing them.

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Fourthly, the previous moderators have been made Site Builders. For now I have only added the admins, and here's the list :

Kirada , UK                        Spirit Source builder / news
Penny, Rebelness           Oliver & Co Builder / news
Mohammad, Deni            ADGTHS
Skulblaka_Shurtugal        TSS
Draco                                   BS
Penny                                   Cats don't dance
Paxis                                    TLKS
Jordan.                                 P&TF
Draco                                   Mulan
Anubis                                 Anastasia
Mohammad                        Brother Bear
Anubis                                 Aristocats

As you can see, I have decided to clearly separate the permissions linked to « moderators » (which are people who activate or deactivate the fan creations, and who watch what gets posted and intervene if necessary by giving warning/bans with the help of reports) and the permissions linked to site building (adding pages on the site, posting news, polls, changing the graphics, adding links, webranking etc...)

So, I have decided that some of the former mods could become site builders (which actually is kinda a promotion, considering it's more fun, and less stressful / tedious than doing the moderation side!), while the moderation staff would be composted of fresh new members (mostly), so as to get the new start for the sites I talked about.

The word « site builder » may not be 100% appropriate though. The point is that a fansite is never truly finished : there are always things to add when it comes to a film /series. For example, almost none of the sites have lists of merchandise released ! Also, site builders can post news, so they can choose good fanarts to show to everyone, and they should also be the one adding polls regularly, and bringing new topics on the forums. So yes, the part of the job of a site builder is to keep looking for new stuff on external sites (Google, Ebay are some of your friend) for the fans to enjoy !

Finally, site builders can make new styles for the sites ; I have corrected the bug that wouldn't make it possible for the french and english sides to use the same styles ; and I'll add soon the possibility for a user to switch between different styles on the same site ! Oh, and don't forget that most of the sites still don't have forum styles.

Please note that I have only added some of the former mods on sites building. If other former mods are interested in site building, please tell me which sites you're interested to work on. I haven't kept an exact list of who did what, and besides, many weren't anymore active. So, just tell me.

More members could be added to the site builders progressively. To be accepted as a site builder, you need to show me an example of your work (an example of layout if you're good at graphics, an example of pages or characters descriptions if you want to do the information part)

That's all, folks!




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Comments

July 28, 2011
Germany Female Is not currently on the site
Find me on DA or FA (Links in profile)
Steet> Not trying to argue but you said in a previous comment "It's both, old staffers can ask to be readded" So to me re-added means being put back into the old place. Possibly that most others got it the same way. But okay, you didn┤t mean it that way.

July 28, 2011
Webmaster France Male Is not currently on the site
AS leader
Judging from the PMs I've received, only 1 person out of 10 understood it...

I mean, I repeated at least 10 times in the text : "added as SITE BUILDERS", and I have clearly described what a site builder was, as opposed to a moderator.

What more can I do? Is it that hard to see these are two completly separate things?

July 28, 2011
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Path of the Demon
I understood what you meant, Steet.

You made it clear that they could be added as site builders, not mods.

July 28, 2011
Webmaster France Male Is not currently on the site
AS leader
It's amazing how much people don't READ the news...Yes, I mean READ.

Because most moderators from the old staff asked me to be re-added as MODS, thinking that's what's written.

And if people can't read news, I'm afraid of the way they read instructions/rules... :/:

July 26, 2011
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
Awaiting TS Modship
Paxis-->Thank you.:cool:

July 26, 2011
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
Awaiting TS Modship
Steet-->What section of AS contests,do we post the information in?

July 26, 2011
Uk Is not currently on the site
Good Luck. The changes you that have been made seem to be positive. I'm hoping that it fixes the problems that were there

July 26, 2011
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
O' Cap'n My Cap'n!
Thanks, Animal Whisperer and Celtic Kate. Yeah, it's a no-brainer about this. I think most of us are on the same page here...and continued trolling by the individual who just keeps thinking he's making me, or steet, or anyone else mad, just won't change that.

:icon307:

July 26, 2011
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
Awaiting TS Modship
JC----->I couldn't agree more.:icon108: :icon108:

July 26, 2011
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
RP Addicts & Off Topicers
Steet: No, no. I'm sorry I misphrased that. What I meant was that the sites which are already open have been worked on by other people who aren't being credited anymore now. I just felt it unfair to those who spent so much of their own time to help build the graphics and information on the sites. I didn't mean the future sites or anything. Despite that, I felt that it might have been a better idea to leave those who had originally worked on the sites where they were. Though, I know you created animation source and so your decision is your own. I was just giving my opinion. Now that I look it, I said it slightly rude but... oh well.

That aside, I adore the new rules. I'm also glad about the file size for avatars being changed. The dimensions I don't care for but the file size change really makes a huge difference. I also believe the 'lax' drive at the new rules will most likely get rid of a lot of problems on the site. Awesome job and congratulations to the new mods. (:

Guest
Guest
July 26, 2011
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I'm loving these new changes, keep up the good work Steet. :)

July 26, 2011
Usa Is not currently on the site
Sorry everyone. No comment from me this time.

July 26, 2011
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Path of the Demon
Congrats to the new staff, and good luck.

July 26, 2011
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Aurora Borealis Alpha Female
*points below to JC's comment* I couldn't agree more. ^_^

July 26, 2011
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
O' Cap'n My Cap'n!
I happen to think you're doing a fine job with this steet. Surely, a little fleshing out needs to be done. Skip is right, in as much as Bambi Source, for example, needs "someone to vouch for it". I am sure that is the case with a few sources. But there is time I suppose. I think the mod choices are EXCELLENT, and I certainly don't believe any previous moderators need to be re-added anywhere (for the most part...there may be a few exceptions. Certainly a lot of moderators did work hard. But those who misused their positions, were absent, or abused members have NO business getting their positions back...whether on the sources or on the forum). The new people can take care of things. Like you said, it's time for a fresh start, with new people.

Looks like things are finally moving on in the right direction! :icon14:

July 26, 2011
Fan News Editor Usa Female Is not currently on the site
I am a legend
silver somes- the staff wasnt really.?.well fired. He did it for saftey reasons. He was trying to help out the site.

July 26, 2011
Usa Is not currently on the site
Meh.
You know what doesn't make much sense? The fact that former staff members are trying to get their positions back after they all have been fired. It doesn't make much sense to fire then re-hire the same members for the same positions. That's not really "resetting" the staff now is it?

July 25, 2011
Webmaster France Male Is not currently on the site
AS leader
Moki : "What the...? So... now people who have never worked on the actual sites get to become site builders? "
=> Then tell me, how did you get "hired" in the first place? You were a "simple" visitor, just like everyone else. Why would the other visitors not get the same chance?

Draco : If you don't want to be site builder, I can remove you from staff. It's not just the graphics though. Read the news again. As for the glitch, I can't seem to be able to reproduce it...

Everyone else, except former mods => TOO MANY REQUESTS. My PM box is FULL, although I cleared it last week. I'm sorry, but I'll study the requests progressively, you'll have to be patient. Don't request me if you don't have anything to show me, though. Send your work on the "AS contests" on Balto Source.

July 25, 2011
Germany Female Is not currently on the site
Find me on DA or FA (Links in profile)
Typo> Well, technically they where right., webrankers are no moderators but a (not so unimportant) part of the staff. And you are right, some of the former moderators had a nasty attitude. They could have told you that in a more polite way. Let┤s hope our new set of moderators doesn┤t act like that.

July 25, 2011
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
AppleDash>You
Whenever I'd say that I'm a "mod" (and yes by that I mean a webranker) other mods would go at me saying "You're not a mod you're a webranker! And they have no official mod powers!!!" And, from time to time, they'd say it with a bit of attitude, too. I know that webrankers don't nessicarly count as mods, but I when I said mod I meant like I had a job. Only one mod aploigised for jumping on me. Just thought I'd inform you of that.\

Oh and, congrats to the new staff!!!

July 25, 2011
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Aurora Borealis Alpha Female
I personally love how you have given AS a "fresh start" Steet. I have hoped for the sites to become better in the future and feel that new staff members will help that. Thank you for clearing up the Rules as well; that will be quite helpful in the future...

On the same note, I do feel that a small handfull of previous mods do deserve to be mods again, but I know that you've already handled that when they ask. ;) I look forward to staying with the sites and contributing to multiple sources in the future. I will also be active with work for the "site information" position for a couple of the sources until my graphics abilities are satisfactory...

Thank you again for the fresh start that you have provided Steet.

July 25, 2011
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Senior Mod
I don't mind being site builder for now I guess, but the only graphical thing I've done on the site(s) was adding the SB backgrounds... Were you ever able to fix that glitch on BS where it was only allowing 3-4 uploads and deleting the top one when I was uploading more? (if that makes sense, I just woke up Lol)

July 25, 2011
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
RP Addicts & Off Topicers
What the...? So... now people who have never worked on the actual sites get to become site builders? The people who literally worked on the entire information or graphical side of the sites have no more credibility? That's great... Just greeaaaat... I'm with Skip on this one.

July 25, 2011
Australia Female Is not currently on the site
The ranger and the assassin ;P
thanks for putting the time in to clear up the rules and fix the mod problems steet, especially when you're supposed to be on vacation.
I'm sure allot of people will feel better with the new mods in charge, and knowing the real rules

July 25, 2011
Usa Is not currently on the site
The Salty Spitoon
I'd like to say, for starters, that I, too, am distraught that the mods who did their jobs were stripped of their titles because of all the drama that has gone down the past few months. It's a shame that all of that dedication and time has gone to waste. However, I do think that this "new start" for AS was a good idea, even if I don't agree with a few minor details.

Another thing, I too was an active mod on a number of Sources; mainly ADGTHS for being my "home" Source, which was where I first became a mod. It seems ADGTHS is pretty much covered site builder-wise, so I won't bother Mo and Deni. Though it's sad to see that Bambi Source has no one to vouch for it. I've always loved the movie and would love to still be able to contribute to it, even if it means I cannot revive my position as shout box mod there. If Bambi Source is too inactive, then that's fine, I totally understand. I also would like to mention that I as a site builder (info) for 101 Dalmatians Source, which hasn't been worked on yet to to a hiatus. If it seems necessary, I'd still like to help make that Source as well.

But anyhoo, congrats to the new staff and kudos to the new rules~

July 24, 2011
Usa Is not currently on the site
Meh.
Congrats and good luck to the staff (new and old)! I really do hope that things are looking up for Animation Source now that we have a new staff.

July 24, 2011
Switzerland Female Is not currently on the site
Anastasia Admin
I was active as a forum mod and TLKS global mod and BS images mod, will I not get my spots back?

(Just need a yes or no)

Baltorigamist
Baltorig
amist
July 24, 2011
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Steet, any plans for a Princess Mononoke Source? That would be cool.

July 24, 2011
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
Top Graphix Designers
Actually I wouldn't mind help by making the banners and navi button for the pony source. Send me a message steet. And be sure to check out my profile & signature to see my work; then hit me up. I look forward to hopfully hearing from you.

~Fs

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