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NEW Staff changes

Written by steet :



 

As announced previously by a news, I'm changing the staff on Animation Source to a smaller, easier to manage and more neutral one.

But first, I want everyone to know that I have updated the rules to reflect my current sensibility on the problems that occured on the site these years.
I have made rules less « strict » and more leaning on common sense.
I think it's important that EVERYONE listens to MY « RULES » on the sites. There's been so many people making their own rules and spreading them, even visitors, that it's caused the site a lot of conflicts.

Especially, the big changes are :

- Multi accounts are tolerated, but can be banned if one of them behaves incorrectly.
- Signatures maximum width is now 1000px instead of 600px. This is to reflect the bigger screen resolution used now, when compared to 7 years ago...
- I've changed the "DO NOT" rules to "AVOID". I've never meant that breaking one rule would immediately result in a ban.
- Sexual talks will be banned as soon as a few people report them. (or immediately if it's CLEARLY an attempt to offend people, eg posting nude pictures)

The only VALID rules to follow on the site are these ones :

- This topic is the global rules for the whole site (including shout boxes) : https://www.animationsource.org/board/rules-read-before-posting-t832.html

- As for fan creations, the only valid rules are the ones displayed when sending fanarts / fanfics / etc

ANYTHING ELSE has not been validated by me and should not be taken as reference.
 



Secondly, this is the guideline I have sent to the new staff. I'm posting it here so that everyone knows about it :

- Be lenient on the rules. For example, someone posting some SMS words on shout box does not even need a warning! You need only to react if someone is behaving badly on PURPOSE, or is DISTURBING the other visitors. Focus on the MOST IMPORTANT!

Another example : I don't mind people double/triple posting or even more in a row, on the shout box or the forums, as long as it's to post real information.

When it comes to political, sex, religious talks, etc...it's the same thing. If no one is annoyed by the messages, then let it go. Otherwise, try to advice (not warn, advice!) the user that some other members are annoyed and to please change topic. If the member reacts badly, then it deserves a warn, and a ban if it persists. I advice : two warnings in the 24 hours, then a ban.

Another example from Skul recently...
"I was wondering two things. First, is "Sweet Jesus" being said on the shout boxes, considered against the rules? Jesus Christ is a swear, and Jesus itself is religious talk, so I was wondering, why not?"
Here is my answer : => I would say it depends on the person attitude : if the person is clearly saying that to offend people, then yes, you can take action. If it's just an expression but the person has a coherent/interesting talk involved, then I have no problem with that.
There's part of subjectivity in that - but it cannot work any other way. Otherwise, it's 1984 all over again. (I mean the Orwell book)

- Be helpful. Moderators are here to moderate (captain obvious, here I come!) but also to help the visitors. Be nice to them!

- Multi accounts : tolerated, do not warn or ban multi-accounts unless someone is behaving badly, or the username/profile is clearly intended to offend people.
- Same thing for the fan creations : if it's not something offending (= not too bloody, sexual, religious, stolen art etc...), and it respects the other rules stated on the respective send page, then you can activate it.

- Keep the rules simple. Use common sense. Please, please, no nonsense like making lists of "the allowed and the forbidden SMS words"!!! No one is ever going to read these.

Do you get the general feeling? I won't make a more detailed list of rules - you only have to understand THIS. As long as someone isn't being OFFENSIVE to other people, there's no reason to act. It's THE global rule.

- No one should be added to the staff without me approving it first.

Moderators rules : if someone is breaking one of these rules, and it seems necessary to take action :

- If the same member has already been warned/banned many times previously about the same thing, mods can immediately ban the member.

- If the situation requires immediate action, such as member who is clearly provoking the other members by posting "LOLOLOLOL" on the shout box repeatedly, posting porn pictures (these are examples), immediately ban the member.

- Otherwise, send a warning PM/email to the member. Try to be formal, with tact : you should HELP the member, not criticize him. Invite him to change his attitude by being nice. If the member still continues to act badly, send another warning. If it happens again  (even if it's days after the first warning), you can ban the member.

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Thirdly, here is the list of the members who are part of the new moderating staff :

Kirada, Jazzywolf, Moss, Flitzalys, Roi Doberwolf

This is for a start. I'll probably add more later, but finding the right persons is a lot of work.
They will be Global Moderators on all the AS sites. And that's how it should be : members are cross-sites, the moderating should be too.
Also, all mods will be EQUALS, meaning they can moderate all the sites and have the exact same permissions.

I didn't mention it, but for now, I'll be in charge of managing them.

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Fourthly, the previous moderators have been made Site Builders. For now I have only added the admins, and here's the list :

Kirada , UK                        Spirit Source builder / news
Penny, Rebelness           Oliver & Co Builder / news
Mohammad, Deni            ADGTHS
Skulblaka_Shurtugal        TSS
Draco                                   BS
Penny                                   Cats don't dance
Paxis                                    TLKS
Jordan.                                 P&TF
Draco                                   Mulan
Anubis                                 Anastasia
Mohammad                        Brother Bear
Anubis                                 Aristocats

As you can see, I have decided to clearly separate the permissions linked to « moderators » (which are people who activate or deactivate the fan creations, and who watch what gets posted and intervene if necessary by giving warning/bans with the help of reports) and the permissions linked to site building (adding pages on the site, posting news, polls, changing the graphics, adding links, webranking etc...)

So, I have decided that some of the former mods could become site builders (which actually is kinda a promotion, considering it's more fun, and less stressful / tedious than doing the moderation side!), while the moderation staff would be composted of fresh new members (mostly), so as to get the new start for the sites I talked about.

The word « site builder » may not be 100% appropriate though. The point is that a fansite is never truly finished : there are always things to add when it comes to a film /series. For example, almost none of the sites have lists of merchandise released ! Also, site builders can post news, so they can choose good fanarts to show to everyone, and they should also be the one adding polls regularly, and bringing new topics on the forums. So yes, the part of the job of a site builder is to keep looking for new stuff on external sites (Google, Ebay are some of your friend) for the fans to enjoy !

Finally, site builders can make new styles for the sites ; I have corrected the bug that wouldn't make it possible for the french and english sides to use the same styles ; and I'll add soon the possibility for a user to switch between different styles on the same site ! Oh, and don't forget that most of the sites still don't have forum styles.

Please note that I have only added some of the former mods on sites building. If other former mods are interested in site building, please tell me which sites you're interested to work on. I haven't kept an exact list of who did what, and besides, many weren't anymore active. So, just tell me.

More members could be added to the site builders progressively. To be accepted as a site builder, you need to show me an example of your work (an example of layout if you're good at graphics, an example of pages or characters descriptions if you want to do the information part)

That's all, folks!




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August 05, 2011
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
I must admit, I enjoyed being a fanfic mod on Bambi Source. Sure there wasn't much work, but at least I was contributing.

SnowWolf
SnowWolf
August 05, 2011
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Jordan, I agree. I was a shoutbox mod on All Dogs Go To Heaven Source. Do I think Steet blew it? Yes I do. But there's nothing that can be done right now. So pretty much all us former mods have to grin and bear it and hope we will get our positions back someday. I mean it's pretty sad to see that since Steet did this that pretty much alot of the sites have just pretty much stopped dead now.

August 05, 2011
Germany Female Is not currently on the site
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Saske> I also spoke to steet about that, I was thinking about giving up princess and the frog souurce site building and move over to Rio source (yes, I was a mod there so I might had the chance to get involved into site building there) due to more interest in that movie. But there are already two people for site building so it would be pointless.
But another thing, NO old moderators get added back? Well thatīs a lie. What about Kirada? She was a mod and is it again. (Donīt get me wrong, I donīt have a problem with her or the fact she is part of the staff. And I do not want her to be de-modded for any dumb reason, just pointing out facts) So if no former mod is allowed to get his/her position back then why is she in the staff? Pretty unfair, right? Sure she did a very good job as mod but so did others. And if steet checked the site logs and such he may have figured that out. AGAIn this is not a try to say, hey, Kirada was a former mod so kick her out now, no. Itīs suppost to make think. Is that fair?

August 05, 2011
Site Builder (Content), Site Builder (Co... Poland Female Is not currently on the site
Big Bad Mod
Saske>He told me about site builders, but Jordan said that there are not enough mods, and Steet don't want more mods now, even though current few ones can't handle with the sites.
Anyway, I wanted to be a mod because I don't want to report images and characters in every minute... :/

August 05, 2011
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Jordan and Sakujo--> I've asked to be re-added as a fan chars mod too when the new rules came out but steet has closed the spots for the moderators. He allows only Site builders. Tho I don't know if he still accept them.

August 05, 2011
Germany Female Is not currently on the site
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Sakujo> Oh gret, just great, now you can really see some sites dieing. I mean, why should people contribute if their works never gets activated and visible for public?
Nice move, steet, you know that only 5 people canīt handle all sources.

August 05, 2011
Site Builder (Content), Site Builder (Co... Poland Female Is not currently on the site
Big Bad Mod
Jordan> I wrote to Steet that I want to be a mod but he said that he don't want any more mods...

August 05, 2011
Germany Female Is not currently on the site
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I think we need more moderators. 5 people having to run all sources is impossible. Okay most sites arenīt much active but even there will be things to moderate. Each site should be checked by a moderator at least once a day. But that doesnīt seem to happen.
Last thursday (28th July) I posted a review on Rio source, knowing that our few mods are busy I was prepared to wait. But now, more than a week after I posted it itīs still not activated nor deactivated, itīs still pending approval, so that tells me that the mods are either ignoring it (may it be lazy-ness or they simply didnīt see it) or they donīt even check the less active sites because they are busy on the active ones.
So we really need more staff.

August 02, 2011
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
Site Builder
I agree, it WOULD be nice to get some builders into CDDS and fix it up. I'm getting tired of typing in that URL and the "troll face" showing up.

Guest
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August 02, 2011
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CDDS is still down and fitted with a trollface banner; as a former mod, I wouldn't mind being added as a site builder there to fix/help as I can, plus a few others wanna see CDDS back to 'normal'.

August 01, 2011
Fan News Editor Usa Female Is not currently on the site
I am a legend
anton- quit it! your not helping at the least!

Guest
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August 01, 2011
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-facepalm- Im done. you're gonna get urself in trouble dude.

Guest
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August 01, 2011
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ANTON! you're not keeping ur mouth shout. Seriously just let it be and stop bothering JC. his business is not yours. So just cut it out!

July 31, 2011
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
O' Cap'n My Cap'n!
Look Brown Wolf, I understand how you feel. I've told you that here, and I've told you that in conversation on Windows Live Messenger. But like I said, steet made his decisions. I don't see how keeping that old horse (of those who are bitter about losing their positions) rearing its ugly head is going to help matters. I don't mean to be disrespectful to you or dismissive of your feelings about it, but you're not exactly setting a good example or even painting a good picture of yourself by carrying on this bitterness about it. *I* certainly would have cause to be bitter about a lot of things that have happened to me here over the years...mostly due to the machinations of at least some of the people who were taken off the staff (and taken off because, in part, of things like that perpetrated on plenty of members). But am I carrying on about it here? No. And why?

A. Because doing so would only earn me the frustration and eventual enmity of the present staff, and I don't want that.

B. I would not only be setting a bad example for others (who are still probably trying to get over their own bitterness concerning mistreatment at the hands of former staff members and their abuse and misuse of the rules, etc.), but would be painting a pretty bad picture of myself as well. Did I want to make a fuss in the forum once the troll(s) admitted to their identity and behavior in open chat? Sure did. But to what end? I think we both know what that would have earned me in the end. A certain amount of criticism and declining trust. No need for that. I still have my detractors here. And I have plenty of friends too.

July 31, 2011
Global Moderator Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Peace is one thing. Yes, there has been a lot of peace, but some of the sites are experiencing the lack of new creations being put up onto them for others' enjoyment. Excuse me for caring about one in particular that means quite a bit to me.

I was a mod for four years on BS, and a mod for a few weeks or so on TLKS.

Adjusting to the 'joblessness' I feel right now is not so easy. This year has been tough for me, though I'm sure I'm not the only whose feels that way.

I just wanna make sure things go smoothly on TLKS as far as fanfics, fan images and fan characters are concerned. Is that too much to ask? I think not.

July 31, 2011
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
O' Cap'n My Cap'n!
I am not only NOT a politician, Anton, but I am not thinking politically. I am thinking of the peace we have all enjoyed for a short time so far. Stop trying to psychoanalyze me and my words all the time. I don't appreciate that.

July 31, 2011
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
O' Cap'n My Cap'n!
How about we all not talk about it? We've had nearly a full week of peace, minimal stress, and no trolling. What's done is done. Isn't it about time we all freaking move on here?

July 30, 2011
Global Moderator Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Unfortunately, yes, this is still going on.

July 30, 2011
Usa Is not currently on the site
Wow, this is still going on? Oh well. lol

July 30, 2011
Global Moderator Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Celtic -- You're welcome

July 30, 2011
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
Awaiting TS Modship
Brown Wolf----->Thank you,that's the point I was trying to make.:)

July 30, 2011
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Who knocks at the garden gate?
I hope this change will get this site back to where it's supposed to be, a fun-filled fan site!

July 29, 2011
Global Moderator Usa Female Is not currently on the site
I still think we could use some section mods on the Sources. There have been some... problems that I've seen, primarily on The Lion King Source. As a former fan character mod, I could help, but I can't now. It's kind of buggin' me.

July 29, 2011
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
O' Cap'n My Cap'n!
It was the only way to guarantee an end to the drama of the recent times. Does that mean that drama will never rear its ugly head again on this site? I think we all know that it would be ridiculous to think so. Sooner or later, it will. And hopefully steet's new system will provide a better way of dealing with it in a timely and efficient manner. Am I happy that EVERY moderator and admin lost their positions because of the troubles caused by a few, and their abuses of their positions? Nope. Not one bit. But this is what it is. For any former staffer, and please know that I don't mean to offend, but the position is not you (or about you)...you are the position. The position is more important than who specifically occupies it.

In any case, most of us concur with the bigger picture here: if steet had to do this in order to get his "house" in order, then it was the best thing he COULD have done in the short term. And I am happy with it. Even happier in as much as there are brand new people in moderator positions, and that each of them seem to be doing a fantastic job so far. And more in keeping with the letter and spirit of steet's rules. What a pleasant change!

July 29, 2011
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Path of the Demon
Nothing lasts forever. I've accepted this and moved on. I enjoyed being a mod while it lasted. But Steet's move was a good one. The site seem to be better already with this new staff.

July 29, 2011
Global Moderator Usa Female Is not currently on the site
I kind of have to agree with Snow Wolf. And I rather miss being a mod. Heh, it gave me something to do, kept me busy.

July 29, 2011
Usa Is not currently on the site
Steet, there was alot there so I can see why some people like me got confused. I still think what you have done is wrong especially to the mods who actually did there jobs the right way. But guess they'll never get that chance again. I'm not angry that I'm not a mod anymore, more along the lines of disappointed since like me and many other mods we didn't do anything wrong.

July 28, 2011
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
Site Builder
I will say this: more often than not, people on this site seem to not read the rules, and then do something saying the rules don't say anything against it. That may be what has led to such reckless bahaviour sometimes.

For what it's worth, I'm already a builder on five sources (two open, three unopen) so I've got my hands full as it is with stuff to do. lol

July 28, 2011
Germany Female Is not currently on the site
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Okay, it was a misunderstanding then.

July 28, 2011
Webmaster France Male Is not currently on the site
AS leader
Re-added to the staff, but not as moderators. Same thing for the people who have never been mods, they can become site builders IF they're good enough.

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