THE last word on the pups!

THE last word on the pups!


Many articles have been written (good and quite bad...some come close to the mark, others are way off) about just who is who among the pups of Balto & Jenna's litter. Here, after an exhaustive analysis, I present you with what has to be THE final word!


Article written by BaltoSeppala

This also appears as a 'stickied' topic on the Balto 2 board of the Animation Source forum (though it's been augmented just a bit):

It has often been that, on various Balto fan forums, people seem to have a problem properly identifying the six of Balto and Jenna's puppies seen in Balto 2: Wolf Quest and Balto 3: Wings of Change.  This list, I hope, will help to resolve that problem for anyone who has any difficulty with it, and perhaps serve as a resource for fan fictions, videos, and what-not.

Here are each of the puppies, as identified by lines spoken in the cartoons, or the credits of the two movies:

 

ALEU
Little miss 'tude. The focus of Balto 2: Wolf Quest.  (It still confuses me how many younger fans still have this frustrating urge to misspell her name as "Alue".  >=Z  )
 

Pup

 

DINGO *
He's a darker shade of red than the other pups in most images of the litter, except for the unnamed red-faced pup (when he isn't, it's a coloration continuity error by the animators). He is also the one who talked, in Balto 2: Wolf Quest, about how he "can't wait to get a human, so I can chew on their socks!"
 

Aleu

 

KODI (KODIAK)
The young go-getter, runt of the litter, who wants to be just like dad. And he's the focus of Balto 3: Wings of Change.  I do believe he is the last of the red-furred puppies to be adopted
(which means he's the one who tussles with Aleu, and grabs at her ear,
later in that scene...and that he's the one who's adopted by the young
Inuit boy...whom we can also assume is the son of Mr. Simpson, the
Inuit musher in Wings of Change).  He also does not get credited in Wolf Quest...only in Wings of Change.
 

Quest

 

SABA
Sweet Saba blue-eyes. lol The one who asks Balto, in Balto 2: Wolf Quest, "Papa, are you gonna get a human too?" She's basically a clone of Kodi in color and markings, except for the color of her eyes.
 

Wolf

 

RED-FACED PUP
First of two unnamed pups in the credits of Balto 2: Wolf Quest, often assumed by fans to be a female (and often written that way in fan fictions)...she/he is the one who covers her/his ears whenever Aleu howls in Balto 2: Wolf Quest...especially in the whelping box when they are being given away, and then breathes a sigh of relief when Jenna convinces Aleu to stop. She/he has no official name. Her/his fur is also, like Dingo's, a little darker red than the other red-furred puppies.
 

Bar

 

RED BAR-NOSED PUP *
There's nothing much about this one...and the writers gave the poor little guy/girl practically nothing to be remembered for, except that red bar on top of his/her muzzle. Each of the others at least had a LITTLE something else to do or say. And he/she was given no official name in the credits of either movie. Fans often assume this one is a male, and write their versions of the character that way.  Sometimes, due to errors in continuity, the artists forgot to paint in the nose bar in a few scenes in the whelping box.
 

Pups


* Please note the following with regard to the frequent confusion which Balto fans seem to have over the question of Dingo...and whether or not he's the pup with the bar on his muzzle, or the dark red puppy.

 

 



As a way of settling this confusing issue once and for all...the one about which pup is actually Dingo, allow me to deconstruct the adoption scene (from early in Balto 2: Wolf Quest) for you all.

WHAT DO WE KNOW FOR CERTAIN?
 

There is some information we certainly cannot dispute as pertains to the canon of the Balto 2: Wolf Quest movie:

--that there are only three pups who are given names in this particular one: Aleu, Dingo, and Saba (as seen in the end credits of the movie)

--as is the norm in a movie or television production, characters are listed by name in order of appearance and/or spoken lines.  Because the other three pups are not named in this movie (and because, for the most part, whenever we see them, they are together in one place), we can logically deduce that they are listed by spoken lines (in order of who spoke first).  And indeed, Aleu, who is a major character, is listed first.  Then Dingo, THEN Saba.  It's just a convenient coincidence that they also happen to speak in alphabetical order.  lol

--we KNOW that, following Aleu's apologizing to Jenna for howling (in the adoption scene...the first time she speaks), the next puppy to speak is the darker red puppy...who is the one who says "I can't wait to get a human, so I can chew on their socks!"  This one:

 

Kodi


The third pup to speak, of course, is the blue-eyed pup who asks Balto "Papa, are you gonna get a human too?"  This one:

 

Red


Speaking order: Aleu, Dingo, Saba.  Resolved...the darker red puppy is Dingo, and the blue-eyed puppy is Saba.  PERIOD.  Issue partially resolved...but let's go into it even deeper in just a moment.

--We know that the artists and animators committed some sloppy slip-ups (continuity errors) in drawing, coloring and animation.  Resulting in confusing and often frustrating moments where all the pups (except Aleu) are exactly the same color, and then not, and the bar-nosed pup has no bar on his/her nose, and then does.  That's slip-shod work, and no one could deny that.

 

ADOPTION SEQUENCE
 

We know that the first pup to be adopted, by the young boy, is Dingo, because Jenna says "I know that human.  He'll be a good boy for Dingo!"  Now, if you'll notice one special thing about the pup which is picked up by the boy:
 

Dingo
 


No bar on his nose.  Not at all.  Now, one could speculate that this could be just another continuity goof in drawing and animation.  After all, when the second human (a young girl) comes to adopt a pup, we see the following:

Balto
 


No evidence of the pup with the nose bar.  And there are five pups left (out of six).  That would seem to be a strong argument in favor of those who feverishly claim that the bar-nosed pup is, in fact, Dingo. 

However, look carefully at the whelping box after the girl walks off with the red-faced pup (the second pup to be adopted).  Something interesting happens:

 

Saba
 


*GASP!*  That bar-nosed pup is still there!  That couldn't be just a continuity error!  And you know what?  It's not.  Clearly, the continuity error was where the artists and animators forgot to add in the nose-bar on one of the three red pups in the previous image.  It's quite easy, as one thing, to forget to complete an artistic project.  It's quite another thing to take the time to specifically do it.  Resolved.  Dingo is NOT the bar-nosed pup.  PERIOD.

Incidentally, there has also been an argument about Saba not, in fact, being the blue-eyed pup who spoke to Balto just after Dingo speaks his line.  Three things stand out which refute that argument:

--in the end credits, as I already mentioned, Dingo is listed before Saba, which means he was the one credited with speaking before her.  And that darker red pup (with brown eyes) speaks before Saba.

--the blue-eyed pup who speaks to Balto is the last pup to speak.  And it calls Balto 'papa'...not 'dad' (as Kodi did in Balto 3: Wings of Change).  There is another female character who refers to Balto as 'papa' (and not 'dad', as it would seem the male pups do, as represented in the next sequel by Kodi, whereas NONE of the pups do in Balto 2: Wolf Quest)...and that is Aleu. 

--Kodi, whom it is sometimes said is that pup, is not credited in Balto 2: Wolf Quest.  In this movie, he's just another unnamed pup.  It's not until Balto 3: Wings of Change that he gets his name and identity.

Resolved...the blue-eyed pup who speaks last is Saba.  PERIOD.  (And as we know from Balto 3: Wings of Change, in Balto's flashback, Kodi, has BROWN eyes.  Which one is that in the adoption scene?  The last pup to actually be adopted...as I speculated above under the description of Kodi.  The one who is, late in the scene, tugging on Aleu's ear.)  

There is no arguing with canon, no matter who wants to say "well, so what?  It's called fandom...I'll continue believing what I want about which pup is which.  So THERE."  Deconstructing this scene, through logical, methodical research, has demonstrated conclusively which pup is which.  I don't see how, under these circumstances, it is so hard to determine which is which.  lol   But hey - that's me.  And after some careful research, I had no trouble making that determination.

Hope that all helps!  =D

--The Cap'n






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November 13, 2009
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I have already scanned the credits of Balto 2: Wolf Quest AND Balto 3: Wings of Change. Neither movie has the names Kiona and Dakota in their credits. Neither. Kiona was created by CatWhoHas14Tails...a member here. PERIOD. So was Dakota. And there are about a billion other Dakotas on here. All fan creations.

November 08, 2009
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I'll stop posting, sorry. :red:

November 08, 2009
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I also checked it and it showed that is said KIONA and DAKOTA

please dont yell at me about this, i just want to know if its true or not :embarassed:

November 08, 2009
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when you said that dakota the bar striped pup was still there,

there was actually two dakota's in the box! GLITCH!

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October 14, 2009
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Maybe because Jenna actually CALLS Kodi "Kodiak" in Balto 3: Wings of Change?

If you're going to comment, do your research on the items in the article first. ░x░

(Additionally, "Kodi" is a shortened form of the name.)

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October 06, 2009
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There was absolutely no reason whatsoever to repeat what you said in your post several times. That is extremely immature. :icon298:

October 06, 2009
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Lone Wolf of the Mist
Wow! very presice! amazing work i favorited it into my documents so now i can identify each pup perfectly all thanks to you!:P

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September 07, 2009
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KEI - you're very welcome! And thank you very much too! :P

JENNA27 - On December 4th of last year, Wolf_girl_772 pointed that out in a comment here, and in greater detail. FYI. You may want to take a look back through the comments...

September 01, 2009
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If you watch after the girl takes the second pup, there is 2 pups at the front and 2 jumping at the back...but all four of the pups are red! that means that at one bit of the movie the turned Aleu red not grey! and I know its Aleu not the red nosed pup because you can see shes a girl and Aleu too, has a red nose.

August 29, 2009
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Midnight Dogz
Wow, I'm surprised I didn't comment on this when I first saw it in 08. I just dropped by the articles section so I figured I should leave you a comment. :)

A VERY good article JC and a geat exmaple of what an article should be. (Thus I'm pleased to see it in the Must See section)

This was very useful to me when creating my fan characters of the pups last year, especially since I wasn't sure if the red aleu twin was Dingo or not.

Great job.

August 12, 2009
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Jacob Black's Pack!*Wishes*
Maybe the bar-nosed pup is a shape shifter :wolf: lol

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July 19, 2009
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It is very possible that the animators weren't focused on the model sheets of the pups very much. Or the director simply didn't review their work well enough...as well as the production and post-production editing. Unless we get some direct feedback from a member of the production or post-production teams, we may never know the answer to that.

Still, thanks for the compliment! :cool:

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July 18, 2009
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Well it loks like you finally pulled our the roots of the rumor weed and resolved this silly debate about some minor characters. Good read, very clear and serious. But i'm sure the animators where a LITTLE aware about who to get on-model. But i really appreciate you doing all this work for the sake of the fans.

THANK YOU. :P

July 04, 2009
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JerseyCaptain

Yeah, I'm sure they didn't care, because they probably would have names , they just weren't mentioned.

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July 02, 2009
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Thanks guys! But, er...Baltofan1212, I'm sure the two unnamed pups haven't been complaining about not having names. ROFL. Though I know how frustrating it is to the rest of us!

June 30, 2009
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So, there seems to be loads of dispute over which puppy is which. I'm glad that this article basically rids us of that problem. I just wish that the people took the time to name the other pups. No one likes to not have an identity.

June 25, 2009
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good FINAL word lol i hope this matter is over!

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June 22, 2009
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Thanks! Glad you liked it. ;)

June 20, 2009
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Good article ;) I enjoyed reading this.

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June 12, 2009
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Well...I'm certainly relieved that you liked the pictures. :!

Now...as to the article itself?

June 08, 2009
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:grincolonp: cute pics

March 23, 2009
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That is a very amazing find
NICE WORK:P :p

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March 05, 2009
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Well, every fan has their own interpretations of the characters...especially the fan artists and fan writers. They are entitled to them, even if those interpretations contradict what is established in the factual canon, or what can be logically deduced from a careful watching of the movies.

However, I am pleased that I was able to clear this up for you! :cool:

March 03, 2009
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Ooh, you make a good point. After looking at C4tspajamas' (on DA) references for Balto's first litter, I ended up believing that Dingo is the blue-eyed pup instead of Saba. However, your point has proved this belief irrational. Dingo is the brown-eyed pup. Anyway, considering Dingo's fan-based personality, it is much more likely that he would say something about chewing on peoples' socks x3

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March 01, 2009
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Thank you, Ginga! ;)

Yeah, well, people on this site do love to not only debate things which are not even debatable, but ignore things which are as obvious and plain as the nose on their face. ░x░ It's a process...

March 01, 2009
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I use this article for drawing refrences. XD Too bad some people will always argue with this.:! Kudos for your research, strong work

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February 20, 2009
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I don't believe that it is "disagreeable" to judge the material as final. What I posted is confirmed through research. Nothing here, really, is presumed or estimated. That I left open. Perhaps you might want to read it again...

February 13, 2009
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I'm my own pack
Well... I think this is all good evidence. Except, it's also disagreeable to judge if this really is the final... final word. You never know if Universal actually plans to create another Balto film. If they do, I got my fingers crossed! :grincolonp:

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January 06, 2009
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WRONG, Iluvjoe. Wrong. The red faced pup is not listed in the credits, nor is that name listed. I suggest you view them again. Kiona is the name which CatWhoHas14Tails gave to that puppy, as the adult version of it (and changed a bit). Kiona is not an official name. At all.

You should never post something as fact without first checking it yourself. And no young Balto fan should ever presume that, because a character's name is popular in the fan community, that it is official. Which is what you are doing. When did you last view the end credits of either Balto 2 or Balto 3? Clearly not recently...

January 06, 2009
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whats a group
The red face pup is kiona the even say in the end when the parts come up were they tell you who acts who

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